Let’s make 2015 Ogyen Trinley Dorje’s last visit to America

Richard asks,”How do we disrupt the Karma Kagyu sect’s control over the Karmapa in America?”

Disrupt the flow of money to the sect’s landlords.

“When I began with Khenpo Karthar in 1981 his landlord, Tenzin Chonyi, couldn’t legally as us for donations.”

KTD wasn’t a 501c3.

“Let 2015 be Ogyen Trinley Dorje’s last visit to America on behalf of the landlords of the Karma Kagyu sect of Tibetan Buddhism.”

We make where Ogyen Trinley Dorje comes from an issue for the American public at large.

“The landlords of the Karma Kagyu sect can’t account for where their money comes from.”

Literally, they can’t account for their money, where it comes from or where it goes.

“Let Ogyen Trinley Dorje be the last Karmapa dependent on the landlords of the Karma Kagyu sect.”

We insist that Ogyen Trinley Dorje, as we do ourselves with our future generation, provide today’s young Rinpoches with the education necessary to support themselves.

“Disrupt the flow of money to the sect, disrupt the lineage’s dependence on the sect.”

This is how we disrupt the control of the Karma Kagyu sect over the Karmapa in America.



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26 responses to “Let’s make 2015 Ogyen Trinley Dorje’s last visit to America

  1. Sabastian

    It sounds like there is just too much money flying around- so much so that it’s not uncommon to have trunks of foreign currency unaccounted for.

    Then there all the monks having affairs, illegitimate children while they run around the world in private jets extolling environmental awareness.

    The are as Rebel Buddha as Ronald Reagan.

  2. thubten2001

    The Kagyu Rinpoches don’t like accounting because it takes away some of their control. They don’t believe in democratic control of nonprofits. Ponlap may be an exception. Dont know.

  3. thubten2001

    what are the titles of the landlords? from my experience it’s not just the landlord its a cultural lack of understanding about Western ways of managing organizations. the Tibetan Buddhist organizations that have adopted Western ways of organization don’t have these problems. for example tergar is very well run, but it’s only missing its rinpoche.

    • Rinpoches don’t own property, their landlord does. We need not concern ourselves with Tibetans with titles.

      What we need to do is disrupt the relationship between Rinpoche and landlord.

  4. Jemma

    So if KTD ends the ED position, and Khenpo Tenkyang and the Board run the full show come August, who is the landlord in this scenario?

    The Chinese sangha, members of the Ocean of Merit?

    • KTD’s landlord post-Tenzin Chonyi is Ogyen Trinley Dorje’s landlord, name unknown, but somebody’s kin.

      You can be sure of that much.

      Karma Tengkyong takes his marching orders from this person.

      This is the relationship we need to disrupt.

      Karma Tengkyong must account for where KTD’s funds come from.

      He can’t, though.

      This is how we disrupt his relationship with these people.

  5. They are nobody in this. They aren’t landlords. They are Rinpoches.

  6. Betty D.

    Rumor on the street is that Tenzin is not leaving KTD!!

    Why else has the position of Executive Director been voted to be eliminated by the board?

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