Why we are so vehemently against KTD’s new retreat master

Picture of Thrangu Rinpoche at his monastery in occupied Tibet thanks to his deal with the Chinese to accept that Tibet is part of China 

“It all goes back to the 1980’s.

Brian recalls.

“After Mao died.”

Brian continues.

“And China’s new rulers allowed diaspora Tibetans who had fled Mao’s advancing People’s Liberation Army 25 years earlier to return to Thrangu monastery after 25 years of self imposed exile in the West.”

Brian adds.

“Their monastery, a place they had called home since they were children, as a gesture of good will, with the sole condition that they accept that Tibet was part of China.”

Brian pauses.

“This changed everything for us here, the students of said diaspora Tibetans, in particular those of us who were practicing under the supervision of Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche at the time.”

Brian recalls.

“We were told here in Chicago that Rinpoche could no longer visit us, that he was retiring as such, or at least that is what we were led to believe.”

Brian adds.

“In retrospect this turned out to be a lie, a lie which to this day has to pitted us against KTD, us Americans against those Tibetans, personally.”

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13 responses to “Why we are so vehemently against KTD’s new retreat master

  1. Osel Karl

    They send Lama Kathy though…

    • She isn’t welcome here since the banishment of Bardor Tulku.

      • Osel Karl

        Oh, I was led to believe she had taken KKR’s place as the senior traveling teacher. I also thought she backed the removal of Bardor Tulku…

        • Actually, nobody wants to see lama Kathy here because she supported the banishment of Bardor Tulku.

          She betrayed us.

          When Khenpo Karthar retired it was with Bardor Tulku, for over a decade, that new people here took refuge with.

          Nobody anywhere, not just here, wants to take refuge with lama Kathy.

          Everyone knows that she is a favorite of Khenpo Karthar.

          She doted over Rinpoche like an egg since we we’re kids.

          He loved her for it.

          We thought she needed to get a life.

          Anyway, she never was, she isn’t, and she never will be anything to us here.

  2. okiebuddhist

    TAR = Tibetan Autonomous Region. Yes, the Chinese invaded and “stole” the land, but I’m actually excited that many Tibetan Buddhist sects have identified methods of connecting peacefully to a continued Chinese occupation.

    There aren’t many options in the world for Tibetans in China.

    1. They could fight and become an extinct culture.
    2. They could make compromises to allow the TAR to thrive with some amounts of peace.

    I prefer option 2. Not sure what other options exist.

    I’m Cherokee Indian. Our survival hinged on surviving the Trail of Tears and establishing a new settlement in current-day Oklahoma. Perhaps that’s the third Tibetan option: diaspora.

    As an American, I don’t care to practice Tibetan cultural rituals, but if culture means something to the Tibetans, then let them practice.

    Everybody is welcome to our Cherokee Pow Wows!

    • I’m from Iroquois country, the St. Lawrence River region of Quebec, and they feel much differently about those who occupy their lands to this day.

      But that’s a Canadian thing, unique to Canada, further complicated by the status of Quebec, whether it is part of Canada or not.

      You get the idea.

      As a captive people, an occupied nation, the Cherokee experience with its occupiers is an American thing as such.

      I’m glad you are so pleased with how that turned out for your people.

      Unfortunately, Tibetans are more like Canada’s First Nations than America’s Native Americans.

      • Osel Karl

        As long as the practice of vajrayana necessitates the adoption of Tibetan culture we have a problem.

        • My generation of dharma practitioners established that we need not concern ourselves with the post-diaspora Tibetan project of preserving their culture as part of a benevolent Chineses state of which they have only recently come to terms with as as a captive people.

          Fortunately for us, Tibetan Buddhism in America pre-dates this historic development.

          There are no shortage of those of us who practiced under the supervision of Diaspora Rinpoches whom believed at the time that Tibet was lost forever and that their challenge as teachers was to adapt to our ways instead of the other way around.

  3. Osel Karl

    What about the rumors that KTD will be torn down and rebuilt because the shrine building has chronic structural problems? Word on the street was the HHGK thought it might be a good idea to do that…

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