Picture of Ogyen Trinley Dorje from 2008 that the old man instagramed to illustrate our discussion of that time His Holiness said to a packed audience in Seattle that he had never done his 100,000 prostrations but instead did a short daily ngöndro recitation which he wanted us to do as Karma Kagyu, a break with Tibetan tradition never implemented as such by his sect which did not support their Karmapa Yangsi in this regard
According to the numbers this morning people are interested in the subject of ngöndro, the practice of prostrations.
The old man has nothing to say about the subject, though.
It’s not a subject he feels comfortable discussing in public.
“It isn’t something we talk about amongst ourselves.”
“For good reason.”
As Karl remembers it When Virginia began doing prostrations it was the end of Chicago KTC as a living room sangha.
“Prostrations aren’t for everyone.”
“If ngöndro, the four extraordinary foundations are the one practice we all have in common as Karma Kagyu, it can’t be not for everyone.”
“In Tibet it wasn’t for everyone.”
As the old man likes to say, there’s the rub.
When his teacher did ngöndro in Tibet it wasn’t for everyone.
Presumably, a place had to open up for him in Thrangu monastery’s retreat and he had to be selected to fill that spot, and so on.
Again, it isn’t something discussed, it isn’t something up for discussion if you are a Karma Kagyu.
“That isn’t what Ogyen Trinley Dorje said in Seattle in 2008 though.”
“He told us that it is for all of us.”
It turns out Ogyen Trinley Dorje never did ngöndro himself.
He just came out said so in Seattle.
Even the old man was a bit taken aback, pleasantly so, that the young Karmapa Yangsi went there.
“That isn’t what he meant though.”
End scene. Fini.
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