Chogyam Trungpa on the difference between crazy wisdom and just being crazy…

Picture of Chogyam Trungpa with Allen Ginsberg at Naropa in 1975 the old man instagramed to illustrate this episode of Pulp Buddhism in which the Naropa Prairie Dog Players do a dramatic reading from volume five of Rinpoche’s collected works, in his own words…

Carolyn begins.

“In the case of ordinary craziness, we are constantly trying to win the game.”

Allen replies.

“We might even try to turn craziness into a credential of some kind so we can come out ahead.”

Allen continues.

“We might try to magnetize people with passion or destroy them with aggression or whatever.”

Caroline replies.

“There’s a constant game going on in the mind.”

Allen replies.

“Mind’s game—constant strategies going on—might bring us a moment of relief occasionally, but that relief has to be maintained by further aggression.”

Allen pauses.

“That kind of craziness has to maintain itself constantly, on and on.”

Allen continues.

“In the case of the primordial craziness of crazy wisdom, we do not permit ourselves to get seduced by passion or aroused by aggression at all.”

Caroline replies.

“We relate with these experiences as they are, and if anything comes up in the midst of that complete ordinariness and begins to make itself into a big deal, then we cut it down—without any special reference to what is good and what is bad.”

Allen replies.

“Crazy wisdom is just the action of truth.”

Allen pauses.

“It cuts everything down.”

Allen continues.

“It does not even try to translate falseness into truthfulness, because that in itself is corruption.”

Caroline replies.

“It is ruthless, because if you want the complete truth, if you want to be completely, wholely wholesome, then any suggestion that comes up of translating whatever arises into your terms, interpreting it in your terms, is not worth looking into.”

Allen replies.

“On the other hand, the usual crazy approach is completely up for that kind of thing—for making whatever comes up fit into your thing.”

Caroline replies.

“You make it suit what you want to be, suit what you want to see.”

Caroline pauses.

“But crazy wisdom becomes completely accurate out of the moment of things as they are.”

End scene. Fini.

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