Chogyam Trungpa on working with the enlightened mind…

Picture of Chogyam Trungpa the old man instagramed to illustrate this episode of Pulp Buddhism in which the Naropa Prairie Dog Players do a dramatic reading from volume five of Rinpoche’s collected works, in his own words…

Virginia begins.

“Working with an enlightened person is extraordinary, but at the same time, it can be quite destructive.”

Allen replies.

“If we do the wrong thing, we might be destroyed.”

Virginia replies.

“It is like playing with fire.”

Allen replies.

“Having experienced the awakened state of mind, we remain uncertain about how to work with it.”

Virginia replies.

“The fear of death, the fear of pain and misery—all such fears—have been transcended.”

Allen replies.

“Theoretically.”

Virginia replies.

“Having transcended those states, the eternity of life goes on beyond them.”

Jonathan replies.

“Such eternity is not particularly dependent on life situations and whether or not we make them healthier or whether or not we achieve longevity.”

Jonathan continues.

“It is not dependent on anything of that nature.”

Caroline replies.

“This attitude of eternity is quite different from the conventional spiritual idea of eternity.”

Sally replies.

“The conventional idea is that if you attain a certain level of spiritual one-upmanship, you will be free from birth and death.”

Caroline replies.

“You will exist forever and be able to watch the play of the world and have power over everything.”

Jonathan replies.

“It is the notion of the superman who cannot be destroyed, the good savior who helps everybody.”

Caroline replies.

“This general notion of eternity and spirituality is somewhat distorted, somewhat cartoonlike.”

Jonathan replies.

“Birth and death and other kinds of threats might be seen by samsaric or confused mind as solid parts of a solid world.”

Jonathan continues.

“But instead of seeing the world as a threatening situation, we begin to see it as our home.”

Virginia replies.

“In this way, we attain the primordial state of eternity, which is quite different from the state of perpetuating ego.”

Sally replies.

“Ego needs to maintain itself constantly; it constantly needs further reassurance.”

Allen replies.

“But in this case, through transcending spiritual materialism, we attain an ongoing, constant state based on being inspired by fellow confused people, sentient beings.”

End scene. Fini.

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