What would Milarepa do?

Dear readers,

I submit for your consideration a Milarepa quote that comes to us from Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamtso.

“A doer and deed refined until they’re gone this way of working with conduct it works quite well.”

Yes, it is horrible what Thrangu Rinpoche and his creatures have done to the Tibetan people.

That being said, I say let history be their judge in this regard, not us.

It is what it is.

At least we know what happened.


Moving forward, we need look no further than to the example of Milarepa to guide us as dharma practitioners in processing what Thrangu Rinpoche and his creatures have done to the Tibetan people in collaborating with the Chinese Government to make Ogyen Trinley Dorje 17th Karmapa.

Long live the Karma Kagyu lineage!

As for Ogyen Trinley Dorje and his Karma Kagyu sect only time will tell what history has in store for them.




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10 responses to “What would Milarepa do?

  1. Martin

    I guess you are right. Let us not judge Ponlop Rinpoche, Dilyak Drubon Rinpoche, Situ Rinpoche, Shamar Rinpoche, Akong Rinpoche, Thrangu Rinpoche, Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche, not to mention OTD and HHDL for what they have done to the Tibetan people.

    But let us not forget that when power goes unchecked, even the most magnamous lineage holder of the Buddhist tradition seems to mix the acquisition of wealth and power with their morning lojong slogans and daily tonglen.

    Let us not forget that having their feet in the world of dharma practice as well as that of politics and power grabs does not make them great, it makes them as ordinary as any failed Chicago politician.

    And let us not forget that these same people, failed religious politicians, still cling to their thrones, their lavish brocades, their doting entourage and their wealth.

    So, what separates them from Milarepa? Milarepa, warts and all, practiced with a dedication that few others have- he gave up the worldly dharmas and sought out familiarity with the experience of mahamudra.

    These Tammany Hall Teachers, at their best, are nothing more than the distant echo of the yogin Shepa Dorje’s songs of insight- they are far removed from the heart of the lineage.

    As you say yourself Bill, these guys are just politicians for some failed sect.

  2. Why do we try to understand it as Tibetans do? I’m wondering if it wouldn’t even matter to Tibetans because it’s not so much about what the “getter” does, it’s about the attitude of the “giver.” Of course, if they have all this money and power, they should do something honorable but, maybe, just maybe, despite all that, the Tibetan people aren’t being harmed because they aren’t letting their nature be harmed. It’s not our culture and this is nothing new, really. Maybe they don’t want power or money. Maybe they want to give away all their power and money in order to follow Buddhism. Maybe they aren’t sitting their thinking all day long about all the money and power they gave their Buddhist leaders. Maybe they just give it and try to be happy with their lives. Buddhism is, after all, about overcoming those attitudes and behaviors that make us our own worst enemy.

    • Wendy,

      The Karma Kagyu sect in a quid pro quo with the Chinese Government gave said government the right to recognize Ogyen Trinley Dorje as the 17th Karmapa in exchange for the right to re-establish its traditional role vis à vis the rulers of China which dates back the second Karmapa, the first child ever so recognized as the reincarnation of his predecessor.

      The man responsible for this, Thrangu Rinpoche, did not do what he did for money, or glory, but instead for the historic opportunity to return to a 900 year old relationship between his Karma Kagyu sect and the rulers of China.

      With the best of intentions Rinpoche believed that this would not only benefit the Tibetan people but sentient beings with exception.

      The money, the billions of dollars, the wealth transferred, the Chinese money, facilitated by Taiwanese elites in favor of of Taiwan’s unification with Mainland China, a million here, a million there over the course of thirty years, was an unintended consequence of this quid pro quo.

      Buddhism has nothing to do with any of this.


  3. sonam yeshi

    what would the young mila do? lol!

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