In 1960 Edward Conze wrote “There is no such thing as a Bodhisattva” long before Buddhism became the apology for hero worship it has become today 

Dear readers,

Salut mes amis !

When Trungpa arrived in the States back in 1970 Rinpoche had to up his game as an intellect just to hold an intelligent conversation with the caliber of intellects his presence in our country brought to his doorstep.

It was of course a given at the time that we had done our due diligence and read everything we could get our hands on the subject of Buddhism before even considering sitting at Rinpoche’s feet to study the dharma with him.

It was simply who we where as people, in all things against the status quo of our times, especially suspicious of religious authority in particular, what Trungpa later came to call out as the “spiritual materialism” of what has become the norm for China’s safe short Karma Kagyu lineage of Ogyen Trinley Dorje, and his creatures.

“The thousands of lines of the Prajñāpāramitā can be summed up in the following two sentences: 1). One should become a Bodhisattva (or, Buddha-to-be), i.e., one who is content with nothing less than all-knowledge attained through the perception of wisdom for the sake of all beings. 2). There is no such thing as a Bodhisattva, or as all-knowledge, or as a ‘being,’ or as the perfection of wisdom, or as an attainment. To accept these contradictory facts is to be perfect.”

Edward Conze

The Prajñāpāramitā Literature

Cited by Karl Brunnhölzl

The center of the sunlit sky

Page 107

Voilà !

Today in 2016 for followers of Ogyen Trinley Dorje, China’s safe short Karma Kagyu lineage as taught here by its creatures, lama Kathy and lama Karma, for their students who read this blog, to even suggest as the early adopters of the Karmapa in America once presumed to be self evident, is condemned without question to be blasphemy against all their teachers insist to be sacred, a violation of samara and a ticket to vajra hell for anyone who would even consider such a thought.

It is time for us to have a frank discussion as Karma Kagyu about how this came to be so for us today.

Courage !



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2 responses to “In 1960 Edward Conze wrote “There is no such thing as a Bodhisattva” long before Buddhism became the apology for hero worship it has become today 

  1. Tenzin Samten

    And, in 1976, Robert Thurman wrote:

    “Then, the Licchavi Vimalakīrti said to the patriarch Mahākāśyapa, ‘Reverend Mahākāśyapa, the Māras who play the devil in the innumerable universes of the ten directions are all bodhisattvas dwelling in the inconceivable liberation, who are playing the devil in order to develop beings through their skill in liberative technique.'”

    The Holy Teaching of Vimalakīrti

  2. Dedalus Mousetrap

    As for how the Karma Kagyu of America became this way, well, I wasn’t around during its formative periods, but having witnessed a few of its groups here and there in the last few years, mostly composed of somewhat elderly women and men, I think it might have something to do with how the overwhelming majority of them toe none other than the Democratic party line.

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