Australian Karma Kagyu bought and paid for by Situ Rinpoche’s Chinese followers

After HHK16 passed in 1981 Situ Rinpoche violated his samaya and collaborated with the Chinese to make OTD 17th Karmapa, just follow the money Australia, and the truth shall set you free.

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11 responses to “Australian Karma Kagyu bought and paid for by Situ Rinpoche’s Chinese followers

  1. Sangye

    Yawn! Proof please Bill! For someone based in the US you’re very opinionated about how things are done in Australia.

    • First prove to my who you are Sangye? I ask you this not as a Buddhist blogger with whom you wish to argue with here but as lama of the 16th Karmapa’s Mahasiddha inspired crazy wisdom Karma Kagyu lineage, a lama of this peculiar oral lineage which I hold, which originates with Khenpo Gangshar, was entrusted to Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche and as his disciple to yours truly, me, I can direct you through the search for self you will need to answer the question that I have asked here of you using instructions I have received from my guru Khenpo Karthar Rinpoche, and teachers such as Traleg Rinpoche, Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamtso, and Khandro Rinpoche to name but a few of the Rinpoches I have had the privilege of sitting at their feet over the course of my thirty five years as dharma all of which makes me in accordance with the dictates the oral lineage I here represent, every bit a lama than any lama that has ever preceded me going back the days of Tilopa and Maitripa, if that is okay with you, random anonymous stranger, as to what is happening in Australia I do know this, that supporters of the Chinese Communist Party are in the process of buying everything they can purchase from your corporate and political elites to the end that Australia in the future will be totally dependent on said dictatorship at which point Australia will cease to exist as a free nation, let’s see, I also know that it is Spring in Australia, the 43 percent of Americans who want Donald Trump to be president would question this, uh, Australia has a lot of sheep too, here’s something personal, if you lived in Melbourne if you were out and about in the morning you could run into Traleg Rinpoche in a track suit walking his dog according to a student of his I met on Twitter whom I encouraged to take Refuge with Traleg Rinpoche, as is our tradition Rinpoche refused to give him the refuge vows telling him they weren’t necessary, he recommended that he instead should just imagine himself taking refuge and that this would suffice, needless to say I advised this person that this was all part of our process and that he should continue to work on Rinpoche until he agreed to give him refuge vows, this person was thinking of signing up with Shambhala Buddhism when we first crossed paths on Twitter in 2009, that’s all I got on Australia off the top of my head, I do know that Situ Rinpoche can’t disclose where the money to build his million dollar monastery in Australia, neither can the 17th Karmapa here in the United States of America with KTD, another either for that matter, his million dollar monastery also paid for with donations from supporters of the Chinese Communist Party’s ambition to rebrand itself as leader of Buddhists around the world, a massive Chinese Buddhist pyramid scheme with China’s 17th Karmapa atop it all, just wait and see what will happen after the current Dalai Lama dies and the United Front Work Department of the Chinese Communist Party claims the right to choose the next Dalai Lama sighting their recognition of the 17th Karmapa in 1992, your turn random anonymous stranger posting comments on my blog, who is this person you presume to be here to school me about the situation on the ground down under, I eagerly await you sharing with me your story of how you have come to represent yourself on my blog as an expert on the subject of Australia’s million dollar tourist destination for the Chinese Buddhist community, perhaps even a few Australian monks, and curious backpackers on holiday in your country.

  2. Sangye

    Hmm, that was a big post. I will try to answer your points.

    “that supporters of the Chinese Communist Party are in the process of buying everything they can purchase from your corporate and political elites to the end that Australia in the future will be totally dependent on said dictatorship at which point Australia will cease to exist as a free nation”

    Yes foreign investment occurs in Australia like any other county. Excess foreign financial investment and influence is reviewed at a state and federal level. Recently a chinese bid to purchase a majority stake in NSW power was declined by the federal government.

    “if you lived in Melbourne if you were out and about in the morning you could run into Traleg Rinpoche in a track suit walking his dog”

    Melbourne has a approximate population of 4 million people so unless your hanging along Lygon street in Carlton the chances of running into Rinpoche were slim to none.

    “his million dollar monastery in Australia”
    Where is this? I would like to know! There is no million dollar Palpung Monastery in Australia. Seriously I am really curious!

    “who is this person you presume to be here to school me about the situation on the ground down under”

    Hi Bill, my name’s Sangye, I’m a dharma student from down under.

    • Your point, Sangye? Let’s dispense with the rhetorical exercise you want this to be and address the dharma instead, beginning with the nature of this “Sangye, the dharma student” you presume here to be, this is Buddhism 101 so as a dharma student this should be a walk in the park for you, if you are so inclined, if you aren’t I better uses of my time obviously.

  3. Sangye

    I’m not engaging in rhetoric at all. Period! You are making various claims on your blog such as Tai Situ Rinpoche having a million dollar monastery in Australia. This is factually incorrect. Where is this monastery Bill? I am asking you to verify your claims. That is all. You continuing claim that you are holding 17th Karmapa to account. Is it not reasonable to hold you to your own standards? To hold you to account for what you are claiming.

    • I accuse Situ Rinpoche of not being able to account for where the money he used to build a million dollar monastery in Australia came from, this is a political statement, not an invitation to discuss where said monastery is or how much it in fact cost, anyone interested in drilling down into my issue with the 17th Karmapa’s Tibetan Buddhism can fact check me if they are so inclined, but for me my sole purpose is to disrupt the 17th Karmapa’s narrative online, I am here to strip the 17th Karmapa’s Chinese Buddhist pyramid scheme down to its studs and rebuild in its place a Buddhism that isn’t exclusively Tibetan, a Buddhism of people who don’t collaborate with the Chinese Communist Party as the 17th Karmapa did in 2015 when he gave said dictatorship a Traleg Yangsi to harmonize the Buddhism of Tibetans with the people who today occupy it, and so on, I could go on, suffice it to say whatever you think you are doing here, I’m fine with it, knock yourself out, you are only driving traffic from Australia to our discussion, you have taken what was a one off shot in the dark in response to a news item in Australian media for me, as you have noted an outlandish reach on my part, and made it of interest to your fellow Australians, something I never could have accomplished without your active participation here.

  4. Sangye

    The issue Bill, is the gross inaccuracy of your statements! Soooo you want to make a political statement right? Maybe you should do a basic check on what your claiming. Political statements should be accurate.

    You state “to build a million dollar monastery in Australia came from, this is a political statement”.

    Fact: There is NO million Palpung dollar monastery in Australia.
    Fact: There IS a million dollar Palpung monastery in New Zealand.

    Australia and New Zealand are two separate sovereign countries. Seperated by 2600 miles of the Tasman Sea.

    These basic facts are freely available. You also ironically enough, included a link regarding the New Zealand monastery in another thread. Yet you still couldn’t grasp the actual flaw of your statement regarding said monastery’s location.

    If you make erroneous claims, fail to check basic geographies and refuse to validate your claims, can your readers trust your other statements? Or are your other blog posts also riddled with errors? Just because you want to make a political statement doesn’t mean you shouldn’t check your facts thoroughly!!

    • There is no issue here to be discussed, this cause which you take issue with, its time has come whether you like it or not, I have over the course of the past four years prevailed over the 17th Karmapa, anyone who searches the Internet for information about the 17th Karmapa, thanks to Google, or whatever search engine that brought you to my blog, will be directed as you have been to me, a lama of the 16th Karmapa’s Mahasiddha inspired crazy wisdom Karma Kagyu lineage who stands alone in the wilderness of the world of appearances against the 17th Karmapa’s toxic, racist, ethno-nationalistic Tibetan Buddhism which you support as a student of Buddhism with no dog in this fight, a random stranger on the Internet in search of someone to argue with.

      • Sangye

        Yawn!! Toxic this, entho-nathionalistic that, Blah Blah Blah.

        The truth is Bill, you are all talk and no substance. You make multiple erroneous claims that are easily refutable. You can’t verify or substantiate your claims, you have a poor grasp on geopolitical boundaries, you post links as “exhibits” that fail to prove anything, you forget things you have already linked and posted previously and rather then admit you’ve made a simple error, you engage in rhetoric and attempt to obfuscate.

        And no Bill you haven’t “prevailed” over anyone. Let alone the Karmapa. But that’s just another empty claim devoid of substance.

        • You obviously have no stake in any of this, I’m a lama of the 16th Karmapa’s crazy wisdom Karma Kagyu lineage, a stake holder, nobody here cares what an anonymous student of Buddhism has to say about the 17th Karmapa.

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