Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche ghosts Buddhists on the fate of Jamgon Kongtrul the 4th

As a lama of the 16th Karmapa’s Mahasiddha inspired crazy wisdom Karma Kagyu lineage I call here upon all Buddhists of America concerned for the well being of Jamgon Kongtrul Rinpoche the 4th to boycott Penguin Random House Books, publisher of Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche’s latest book, “Emotional rescue” until Rinpoche in his capacity as the 17th Karmapa’s representative to the Buddhists of America stops leaving us hanging here as if what we think about the fate of the reincarnation of Jamgon Kongtrul Rinpoche is none of our business, it is, this April Jamgon Kongtrul the fourth packed a bag, told Ogyen Trinley Dorje’s Karma Kagyu sect to go fuck itself and has been couch surfing at a friend’s apartment at an undisclosed location ever since, enough already with pretending that this isn’t happening, somebody, anybody, if you care about Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche, I have nothing against the man personally, whatever, please explain to him how the internet works, he recently visited Google’s headquarters to promote his latest book, he needs to know that each reference I make here to Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche, “Emotional rescue,” and Penguin Random House Books is captured by Google, I learned this trick from LGBT activist and fellow Chicagoan Dan Savage who used this very same technique to direct anyone searching the internet for information about former Republican Senator Rick Santorum, a vocal opponent of Marriage Equality, to a description of a sex act, well, I need not go into any further detail of the subject, anyway, over the course of the past four years this blog has had over 94,194 visitors whom have generated 443,862 views, merely the mention in passing here on August 2, 2016 of Jamgon Kongtrul the Fourth’s Facebook post alone generated 1215 views, suffice it to say, this isn’t the Buddhists of America asking for a little transparency on the subject of Jamgon Kongtrul the 4th from Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche, we are way beyond asking nice, this is a demand, will will settle for nothing less than full disclosure from the 17th Karmapa as it pertains to Jamgon Kongtrul the fourth without any further delay, with all due respect.


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32 responses to “Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche ghosts Buddhists on the fate of Jamgon Kongtrul the 4th

  1. Wendy

    DPR DOESNT CARE.

  2. Why all this unending Karma Kagyu obsession with celebrities? Obsess on your practice.

    • For anyone who does not know who Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche is, for my part as a lama of the Mahasiddha inspired crazy wisdom Karma Kagyu lineage I see him first and foremost as a disciple of Khenpo Tsultrim Gyamtso Rinpoche, something I have nothing but respect for, I continue to hold on to the belief that he is one of us, that being said though after thirty five years as a Karma Kagyu I know all too well that Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche is also the son of the 16th Karmapa’s Labrang, Damchö Yongdu, step son of KTD’s President for life, Tenzin Chonyi, brother to the 17th Karmapa’s Labrang, Dilyak Drupon Rinpoche, and most important of all the 17th Karmapa’s representative to the Buddhists of America, the celebrity Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche enjoys among the Buddhist chattering class of Buddhism in America has nothing to do with what I demand Dzogchen Ponlop do which is for starters to account for the 17th Karmapa’s actions as they pertain to Jamgon Kongtrul the fourth.

      • Theophrastus

        Blah blah blah. All you say is the same old bullshit over and over, Bill.

        • Margaret

          Ponlop Rinpoche can’t teach nearly as well as this: http://www.karmapa.org/karmapas-teaching-compassion/

          Especially when he’s constantly playing the self-effacing Asian funny-man card.

        • This is not a rhetorical exercise but a direct political action against Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche, what you dismiss as blah, blah, blah, is in fact message discipline, I am well on my way to the day in which anyone who searches the internet for information on Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche will direct said person to the plethora of Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche mentions I have generated here over the past four years, the same thing I’ve done for KTD, the 17th Karmapa and so on, to use the internet to strip the toxic ethno-nationalism of the 17th Karmapa’s Tibetan Buddhism which Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche represents to the Buddhists of America down to the studs and in the name of the Enlightenment principle of the separation of church and state replace it with a Buddhism in which money from the supporters of the Chinese Communist Party and its effort to rebrand itself as the leader of the Buddhist world, replace HHDL after he dies with its choice for 17th Karmapa, Ogyen Trinley Dorje, an abomination to freedom loving Buddhists everywhere, a monster who in 2015 collaborated with the United Front Work Department of the Chinese Communist Party to effectively end the Traleg line of reincarnations with his recognition of a Traleg Yangsi for the monks of Thrangu monastery, a crime against humanity, just as what happened in 1991 with Chogyam Trungpa Rinpoche’s reincarnation, whom I will not rest until I have relegated said supposed reincarnation of the 16th Karmapa and anyone involved with collaborating with the Chinese Communist Party to the dustbin of history.

          • Karen

            Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche is a joke. A teacher only due to his father’s political connections. He is obsessed with money and power and often dresses like a monk even though he is married.

          • Kye ma!

            I’ve heard from a Dharma Brother and Dharma Sister of mine that Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche had really opened and clarified their minds, so much so that they happily promote his Emotional Rescue book tour, and even undertake Nalandabhodi coursework on such strenuous topics as Mind and its World, Middle Way, and more.

            As for me, I’ve never met this Dzogchen Ponlop Rinoche. What else can I say? He seems to be implicated/covering-up some crime(s) against humanity.

            Once I did meet Orgyan Trinley Dorje, Karmapa 17, among a crowd, in Boulder, CO. (Astrological Disclaimer: OTD and I were born just hours apart.) I came in with great respect for the title of Karmapa, and for the robes, as I have done with His Holiness Dalai Lama 14, and other Rinpoches, Acharyas, Old Dogs, &c.

            By now, though, I’ve come to terms about how I wasn’t really impressed at all by the speech, or general aura, of OTD, Karmapa 17, in Boulder that day. Later, while I still tried to maintain respect for him, and after having given OTD Karmapa 17 the benefit of the doubt regarding the suitcases of cash seized by Indian authorities… later yet, after Kalu Rinpoche 2, and yet, Panama Papers, the damage has been done: OTD’s completely lost my respect.

            Buddhists in America hold our lineage representatives to account! The global community too wants to know: what exactly happened to Jamgon Kongtrul 4? I pray for Jamgon Kongtrul’s perfect Refuge.

            Just as I was grieving for myself earlier today, for having squandered so much potential in this life through excessive ignorance, passion, and hatred, so too do I grieve for this lineage, which has squandered more of the same, additionally the names of Karmapa, and Kongtrul, &c., beyond being a “Mishap”, but a humanitarian crisis in desperate need of intervention.

            I hope this simple blog help mediate this mess, and that Search Engine Gods speed Lama Bill’s aim!

      • Sangye

        Are you really a Lama?

  3. Acharya Tsering

    PEACE OUT, BITCHES! THE JOKE IS ON YOU!!

    • This is what the powers that be at Nalandabodhi, Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche’s organization, advise Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche, which as it pertains to Penguin Random House, publisher of his latest book “Emotional rescue,” will be the end of its relationship with Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche as an author, by the time I am through with Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche’s no publisher will publish him, which is entirely on his inner circle of people his Archayas he depends on for their advise, the cause of his demise, these people have nothing but contempt for the Buddhists of America, the petard upon which their advice will foist Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche upon, a shameful fate for someone that the 16th Karmapa had such high hopes for as a young Rinpoche, the reincarnation of his beloved brother, the previous Dzogchen Ponlop, after he died.

      • Jessup

        TAI SITUPA WILL SHUT YOU DOWN BILL. LEAVE OUR PRECIOUS PONLOP RINPOCHE ALONE.

        • You are just driving traffic to this site, knock yourself out, I am stripping the Karma Kagyu sect down to its studs and there is nothing that can stop what I have put into play here at this point, I refer you to the example of what LGBT activist Dan Savage did to then Republican Senator Rick Santorum, a staunch foe of marriage equality, by the time Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche is aware that the internet is directing people searching the internet for him to my mentions of him here, I’ve been at this four years at this point, it will be over for him, all for nothing, the toxic ethno-nationalism of the 17th Karmapa’s Karma Kagyu sect of Tibetan Buddhism.

          • Reng pai

            SEARCH OUR BELOVED GURU, DZOGCHEN PONLOP RINPOCHE, ON THE GOOGLE. YOUR SHIT BLOG DOESNT EVEN APPEAR ON THE 7TH PAGE OF SEARCHES. YOUR SHIT BLOG DOES NOT PREVENT ME FROM RAISING MONEY FOR HIS ENLIGHTENED ACTIVITY.

            YOUR SHIT BLOG DOES NOTHING TO STOP MY GURU FROM CONTINUE ON AS REPRESENTATIVE OF SUPREME SPIRITUAL COMMANDER KARMAPA.

            • It wasn’t until Rick Santorum ran for president in 2012 that journalists discovered what Dan Savage had done, which is the beauty of this form of direct action, when people have occasion to drill down into a search, for instance a journalist looking for something of interest about Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche’s background like who his father was and so on, beyond just googling his name, it works like a charm, very much as with when Padmasambhava secreted away terma for future tertons to discover as needed, generations from now thanks to the Internet people will find your comment and see the kind of person you are, small minded, cap-locked, materialistic, the transactional relationship with Buddhism you have, and conclude that this was the kind of Buddhist Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche was, all because in 2016 someone told him he didn’t have to throw the Buddhists of America a bone and pretend to respect us and speak to our concern for the welfare of Jamgon Kongtrul the 4th.

  4. Anila

    The dharma protectors will send you to hell.

    • Good one, this is exactly the kind of response from Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche’s people, I can’t thank you enough for your contribution to the cause of stripping the toxic ethno-nationalistic Tibetan Buddhism of the 17th Karmapa down to the studs.

      • Jane

        DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU CAN TEAR DOWN THE GOLDEN HOLY DHARMA CENTRES THAT OUR PRECIOUS GURUS CREATED?

        OUR PRECIOUS LAMAS BROUGHT DHARMA TO THIS COUNTRY TO TAME THE STINKY AMERICAN HAIRY INSOLENCE. YOU DOGS LEARN TO IMITATE OUR GREAT ASIAN LINEAGE HOLDERS AND THINK YOU ARE TERTONS AND MAHASIDDHAS.

        SHAME ON YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. YOU MAKE BIG BAD KARMA.

        • This not a rhetorical exercise, this is an exercise in direct political action against the politics of Dzogchen Ponlop Rinpoche, the toxic anti-American, pro-Chinese, ethno-nationalistic Tibetan Buddhism of the 17th Karmapa which he represents, each negative comment posted here by you and your ilk drives traffic to this thread which only damages his cause, and helps further mine, to strip the 17th Karmapa’s Buddhism down to the studs and remaking it into a Buddhism in which the contributions of those members of the Chinese Buddhist Community whom support the Chinese Communist Party’s efforts to rebrand itself as leader of the Buddhist world are strictly prohibited by the Buddhists of America, thus forcing your precious guru to disassociate himself from people like you and your money or quite the United States for Taiwan and never again welcome to teach here again as a Buddhist teacher.

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