Is this the end of the line for Ogyen Trinley Dorje?

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Ogyen Trinley Dorje’s Labrangs ‘Sean Spicer’ worthy attempt to flip the script back to his Karmapa’s favor.

Meanwhile, the office of Ogyen Dorje has refused to comment on the fresh development. However, common Tibetans feel that Thaye Dorje was never a rightful successor to the title of Karmapa. “One cannot be a practitioner and a married person at the same time,” Lobsang Wangyal, the director of Miss Tibet pageant. said, adding that in Tibetan Buddhism only accomplished spiritual masters can marry and yet claim the spiritual authority.

So Lobsang Wangyal, the director of the Miss Tibet pageant, says so.

Right.

For us that Ogyen Trinley Dorje can’t ‘disrobe’ rules him out as 17th Karmapa as such.

A ‘living Buddha’ can’t disrobe and marry but a Karmapa can.

A Karmapa can ‘disrobe’ and marry.

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9 responses to “Is this the end of the line for Ogyen Trinley Dorje?

  1. thubten2001

    Let’s go find our own Karmapa.

  2. thubten2001

    Where would we be without you Bill…lost in backward Tibetan cultural worship.

  3. thubten2001

    As a palate cleanser listen to a brilliant cultural anthropologist discuss religion https://medium.com/conversations-with-tyler/joe-henrich-culture-evolution-weird-psychology-social-norms-9756a97850ce

  4. I am so thankful for the wise words of lobsan, who ever he is, he must surely be enlightened himself…..

    QP

  5. Warrenz

    Lobsang Wangyal is a nobody talking nonsense.
    That said, Thaye Dorje’s marriage changes nothing. It neither strengthens or weakens Ogyen Trinley’s claim (nor indeed Thaye Dorje’s). Thaye Dorje was never taken seriously as a contender outside of Shamar’s students and close associates. Some may not like to hear that but it is the truth.

  6. Steve

    Lobsan can only run Miss Tibet beauty peagant, that’s all

  7. nikolas kaugon

    once again i am confused. i would have thought otr is strengthened by this. but who am i to tell. tibetans have their own traditions. it’s time for westerners to build their own as well

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