The issue with Westerners identifying as Tibetan is that prior to 1959 98% of Tibetans were enslaved by Tibetans

Bon lunch là,

theguardian.com

In the Early Translation of Tibetan Buddhism it is a given that identifying as Tibetan is not an option.

Benv’nue .

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53 responses to “The issue with Westerners identifying as Tibetan is that prior to 1959 98% of Tibetans were enslaved by Tibetans

  1. It’s seldom discussed what happened to “alternative” claimants to the Karmapa’s throne under the old regime. I forget the details, but I read that a high Gelugpa lama tried to have his son or nephew made the 16th Karmapa and sent him to Tsurphu. Shortly afterwards the youngster “fell off a roof.” End of that story. As for rival claimants to be the 15th Karmapa – one was blinded while his father was poisoned, or vice versa. These people didn’t play. In the old days Thaye Dorje would have been food for the fishes.

    • Jane

      It’s interesting that there’s so much interest in “preserving Tibetan culture” and so little interest in looking deeply into the negative aspects of old Tibet. Shangrila, it was not.

      • And there may never be a single Karmapa again, because there is no legal authority to enforce it. I’m sure the same thing will happen when the Dalai Lama dies – there will be one in China, one in India, maybe a Dorje Shugden one, and on the sidelines whoever can get traction and publicity. The lineages that will hold together best are the Nyingma-style family-based lineages like Dudjom Tersar. As well as the smaller lineages that aren’t fame and money magnets, so there is no advantage for the ambitious and arrogant to push their sons or nephews onto the throne.

        • Jane

          I hope Kagyu lineage can grow up and get back on track, but our success in the past has turned us into the Catholic Church complete with threats and banishments. I agree that the family-style Nyingma lineage (with no pope in charge) seems like they are headed in a better direction.

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